Yay, more things I have to drop

[stinglikeabee]

Queerty's 10 Companies That Hate The Gays (via ontd_political)

I'm still on the fence about boycotts, seeing as how they're poorly thought out most of the time but damn, seeing those names on the list just makes me want to stomp on things. Even this:

A Fortune 1000 Company, Brown-Forman distributes Jack Daniels, Southern Comfort, Finlandia Vodkas, Herradura Tequila, Sonoma-Cutrer Wines, Fetzer Wines, Korbel Champagne, Bolla Wines, Bonterra Wines, but provides no comfort to its gay and lesbian employees, refusing even basic domestic partner benefits.

*tear* Oh well, I've still got Guinness. Yeah, I know Guinness isn't vegan ... IDK, lesser of all evils?

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[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Thank goodness Patron and Maker's Mark aren't on this list. :D

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

Haha, that was my second thought!

[parlance.livejournal.com]

Thanks for posting that. :-( (the link needs an "l" in html, btw)

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

Fixed, thanks!

And I had no clue about Domino's. Good thing I don't eat their nasty pizzas.

[parlance.livejournal.com]

I've been boycotting them for years because of the anti-choice thing.

Very sad about Salvation Army. Well, there's still Goodwill and Oxfam.

[saavikam77.livejournal.com]

Thanks so much for the link to that post. I've been meaning to try to do less of my shopping at Walmart for a while now. Now I have a really good reason to.

*hugs*

And thank goodness there's still Guinness. Hubby would cry if he couldn't get that. :p

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

*hugs* Aw. My mother and I used to work at Target, so we're pretty snooty about Wal-Mart. I don't get high-and-mighty about it as sometimes it's the only choice for families, but it's always a good thing when people make the decision not to shop there anymore.

Oh, if I heard something awful about Guinness or its parent company, I'd cry too. What will I drink at St Paddy's/bars/everynight in front of the TV? :P

[ldragoon.livejournal.com]

Ugh! The Salvation Army??? Really? How disappointing! I thought they'd have some compassion.

'm still on the fence about boycotts, seeing as how they're poorly thought out most of the time

I know what you mean about boycotts. Some boycotts I think are successful, and some things I do my best to not shop from on principal, like Wal-Mart, but yeah, there are some poorly thought out, assy boycotts that gather steam on the Interwebz. Still, civil liberty are a big deal, and I don't feel right giving any of these fucktard companies my money.

Sigh...

Good thing I'm not a big drinker, I guess. And Dominos makes shitty pizza anyway.

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

What I was disturbed to find out was that the Salvation Army is an evangelical organisation that hires lobbyists hoping to influence politicians in DC. IMO charities, even secular ones, shouldn't have lobbyists. They should do what it says on the tin ie give the donations to the people who need it most, not try to affect government policy.

Yep, I hear ya on the boycotts, particularly the Prop 8 boycotts: either they're unsuccessful in drumming up major support and fly under the radar, or the assy ones like the El Coyote restaurant fiasco (http://laist.com/2008/11/12/el_coyote_restaurant_prop_8_lunch_h.php) serve as fuel for the other side. It's hard not to feel as if the boycotts will serve no larger purpose. And who knew about Domino's? Anti-choice AND anti-gay. What a charming combination.

[ldragoon.livejournal.com]

IMO charities, even secular ones, shouldn't have lobbyists.

WORD. You haven't heard anything bad about Goodwill by any chance, have you? @_@

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

Thankfully, no :)

[ldragoon.livejournal.com]

Oh, whew! I LOVE Goodwill, and read up on them a few years ago, and it sounds like they do a LOT of good stuff for disadvantaged people. I'm just glad I don't have to knock them off the pedestal I shoved them on. ;) We have a local WEAVE thrift store I go to a lot, too (WEAVE is a local women's shelter; they run about two local thrift stores that help generate funds for their programs).

I'll be damned if I ever go to Salvation Army again though. *grump*

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

Hearing that about Goodwill and local thrift stores is awesome. Whenever I hear of a company/org that takes its commitment to the community seriously it makes me want to pimp them even more. Alongside this list of 10 companies that hate the gays, I would love to see a list of inclusive companies/orgs that actively support their workers and society.

[ldragoon.livejournal.com]

I'd always wondered why Goodwill has such a high turnover rate (I was going to my local one almost every other weekend, so I noticed), and I read up about them to make sure they weren't some sort of horrible employer. Turns out they give a lot of entry level positions to people who need them for resume builders, and THAT'S why they have high turnover. They're basically employing a lot of people other companies would probably pass on.

Snagged from Wikipedia:

Goodwill Industries International is one of the world’s largest nonprofit providers of education, training, and career services for people with disadvantages, such as welfare dependency, homelessness, and lack of education or work experience, as well as those with physical, mental and emotional disabilities.

I thought that was pretty cool -- I feel pretty good about giving them money. And WEAVE is definitely a slam dunk. They're just awesome. :)

[bradygirl_12]

I always pass right by the S.A. bell-ringers and don't put money in the kettle. I give to charities who don't discriminate. A pity, because they do good work, but I can't stomach the homophobia.

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

You're right, and that's the funny thing about SA. They won't turn away people in need, and certainly don't stop and ask whether said persons are non-Christians/gay/whatever else they object to. It's admirable, but then SA will turn around and actively discriminate in hiring or donate money towards influencing discriminatory laws. That's what pains me the most about religious organisations: they say the message is love, but they exclude those who should receive it.

[bradygirl_12]

Actually, I have heard of the organization refusing to help a gay person who was out of his apartment because of a fire. They are very evangelical Christian.

[stinglikeabee.livejournal.com]

Seriously? :/ Geez, that's really messed up.

I do have a story on the brighter side of SA: during the '04 wildfires in Riverside County, SA helped my classmate find a place with donated clothing and food when he lost his home. But if they had known he was gay... *shivers* It's just wrong. I don't know what part of Christianity would justify turning away a person in need.

[bradygirl_12]

Some people's Christianity, apparently.

Lucky they didn't know about your friend.